Injectionpump 300turbo or non turbo300 for 7mm

[anton]

I have plans to send my pump over to mynä or ppdiesel for the 7mm modifications. But I have some questions first. Is it able to mount the 7mm elements in a non turbo pump or do I need a original turbo pump? I have an original turbopump, but it is equipped with "air mass meter" (dont know the word for it). It measures the air mass who is passing throug an box wit an flap inside.

Will this airmass meter cause problems for me? Thinking about the 7mm modifications... And what will happen if I dont use this air mass meter?
Or should I search for an turbo pump who is not equipped with the air mass meter?. Feels like the expencive way...

[veskola]

I think the aif mass meter (MAF) is a separate part near of the aif filter, not included anyhow to the pump.

The engine with MAF propably have EGR system and there inside pump is a kind of electric sensor. Anyhow that is not a problem to install 7 mm elements. Here is a picture of the place where sensor is located (in picture of the pump the sensor is missing).

If your engine have turbochrger the pump of turboengine is prefered becase it have ability to increase injection according boos pressure. That means less smoke before boost pressure have rised.

Engines without turbocharger works well with 7 mm elements too.

...and finally if your engine is with EGR system you should eliminate it somehow to get best results. I think it is not tricky issue on the engines with "old school" pumps (in finnish "rivipumppu", is it line pump in english ) .

[anton]

Exactly! It is the MAF i`m thinking about. Good with pictures. Ok, then I´ll use my pump then. The EGR system will not be used, do I need the MAF then? Less components under the hood is nice...Other turbo and mainfold will be installed.

[veskola]

Try to remove the wires of the MAF, if the engine still starts, waste that MAF. It may cause some fault code in the ECU but propably won't cause any extra harms.

...BUT if the turbocharger is controlled by ECU that should also be eliminated. Easy task, just add a charger with "boost self controllin system".

[anton]

yes, i´ll control the boost my self. New mainfold, turbo and an adjustable wastegate. The engine is going to be built in a w201for some streetrace. And eventually some summercruisn` .

Where should I send the pump? Mynä or PP?. When do the industrial vacation starts in finland? In sweden it starts juli. So I don´t get too lazy to get the pump away bofore they close for vacation.....

[anton]

by the way, does the pump have an ecu? Isn't just the revcontroll,MAF and the boost contorll who is connected to this type of pump? Then the rest is just mecanical

[veskola]

In some engines there is overpressure protection controlled by ecu, but that is one issue to be eliminate too. There is magnetic switch on the tube between intake manifold and pump...just straight tube there and ewerything is ok.

Mynä-Diesel are quite busy, that means you should make contract when they are able to take the pump to be modified. About PP i don't know how busy they are. Official vacation month is July in Finland. Maybe better to ask details directly by them.

I think Mynä-Diesel makes the best pumps.

[anton]

ok then. Maybe I should contact mynä this week about the pump and price. So I have it before july. It would be a tragedy to just wait a month !!

[HoleshotHolset]

Official vacation month is July in Finland.

Off topic: I need to move to Finland. We work too much here in the US...

I have found a few injection pumps, would this type of pump work on a newer OM606 engine? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0094505794

Has anyone ever swapped the governor housing on an OM606 electronically controlled pump for a mechanical governor?

Thanks,

Matt
Suomi!

[Petri K]

Official vacation month is July in Finland.

I have found a few injection pumps, would this type of pump work on a newer OM606 engine? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0094505794

Hi there! it looks to me that it will fit to 606

[HoleshotHolset]

Hi there! it looks to me that it will fit to 606

Thanks for your input! I'll keep my eyes open to find another one of these pumps once I get a suitable OM606.

On the US SuperTurbo forum, I'm investigating which internal engine parts (pistons, cylinder head valves, etc.) are different between the non-turbo OM606 and the turbo OM606. If the non-turbo OM606 can be used in a SuperTurbo buildup, I'll use one of those engines since they are much more plentiful here in the US.

Thanks,

Matt

[Forced_Induction]

If the non-turbo OM606 can be used in a SuperTurbo buildup, I'll use one of those engines since they are much more plentiful here in the US.

Yes, I'm very interested in the answer to this as well. It would greatly simplify things over here.

[HoleshotHolset]

Yes, I'm very interested in the answer to this as well. It would greatly simplify things over here.

I plan on researching this and coming up with a definitive answer. I'll surely post my findings here and in the US SuperTurbo forum.

Thanks,

Matt